Fed Gov Waller on Bloomberg TV reinforces his credentials as one of the most dovish members on the FOMC, clearly emphasizing concerns over the growth impact of tariffs, vs what he sees as the likelihood that their inflation impact will only be a one-off. Previously he's said that he sees rate cuts either way, either in "good news/lower tariff" or "bad news/large tariff" scenarios, and his latest commentary reflects this though it's notable he doesn't think that the FOMC will have enough data to make a decision until later in the year though emphasizes that there are multiple downside signals that could warrant a cut before it is too "late".
- Waller says that in the "smaller tariff world" of 10-12%, most private firms can deal with it - however it would "not surprise me" to see layoffs tick up going forward if the "big tariffs come back up". Overall "every person I have talked to in the private sector" are "just kind of frozen", and "capex and everything has come to a stop".
- Asked when the Fed will have enough data to decide on rate cuts, Gov Waller says that we won't see the tariffs in the hard data "until July" - but "it is not likely to me that by July 1 you will see really big impacts from it" given the April 2 tariffs have been postponed. When you get to the 2nd half of the year we will have a better idea of tariff passthrough and "stuff on the real side". But in the interim there may be layoffs "at the same time when you see prices going up", you "could see both happen at the same time or close together".
- On unemployment, Waller says that he is more concerned about the speed at which it may rise: if the rate rises 0.1 points monthly, it would not be a "big problem", but if it rises 0.2pp or 0.3pp a month, "that is happening because you are seeing layoffs".
- Waller reiterates his view that tariffs are a "one time price level effect and it will pass through". As such he "will not overreact to any increase in inflation that is trivial", as "the critical thing is that it will take some courage to stare down the tariff increases" as "I have a hard time seeing" what would cause the tariff-driven inflation to persist. He notes that "if I see a significant drop in the labor market, I would expect more rate cuts and sooner."
- He says that due to a data-driven approach to policy, there is "always a risk" that the Fed will fall behind the curve, but "hopefully you are not late" - says if growth prospects "started tanking", "enough movement in the unemployment rate to make me think that things were going bad", or consumer spending started going down, "I would be ready to go and I would not be determining whether inflation was transitory or not" as it would be "time to worry about the real side of the economy."